if we have no spending problem, senator, why do we need to extend the debt ceiling? why do we need more money? >> greta, the president is running out of excuses. he can't blame the last administration because he is the last administration. president obama has spent more and created more debt than any president in history. yeast, we have the slowest recovery of any recovery in history. i spent last summer, going around my state, talking to small businesses, dozens of them. so it's very clear to me what's happening now. they were beginning to pull back because of the expected cost of obamacare, the dod-frank legislation, that was a federal takeover of our financial system is making it harder for businesses to get loans. you look at the expected tax increases, which businesses were trying to plan for, the uncertainty really goes back to the president's policies. it is not obstruction. i wish we had had more of it. the policies in place are hurting our economy. and even more than that, the uncertainty from the mounting debt on individual americans is -- is putting us in